If Shin Bet have any more similar exploits up their sleeve they'll have to use them all right now, before Hezbollah and/or Hamas fall back to bicycle couriers and handwritten notes on paper. (It's kind of hard to run a supply chain attack on 19th century tech.)
The moral of this story (besides Shin Bet being murderous bastards) is that your SIGSEC is always suspect if you're up against a technically advanced enemy (like Israel, with its extensive IT industry).
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in reply to Charlie Stross • • •WellsiteGeo
in reply to n-gons • • •@ngons You'd need to slip an explosive + detonator + control (e.g. mobile phone) assembly into an unsuspecting courier's bike (down the saddle-tube?). Unless you've recruited a suicide bomber, when *much* bigger packages become feasible.
Don't forget the online paper trail.
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in reply to Brie Mmm • • •@brie Hezbollah seem to be *just* stupid enough to go back to paper messages carried by bike couriers riding cheap no-brand e-bikes imported from China via an unsecured supply chain.
You can fit a LOT of C4 into an e-bike battery, and if the thing uses an app or cloud-connected display ...
WellsiteGeo
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OTOH, replacing a significant *volume* of battery with "bang" would have very noticeable effects on battery(pack) endurance.
A "contaminated" *batch* of work-alike el-cheapo whatevers, would raise little more comment than "we won't buy *those* again!"
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in reply to Sarah Brown • • •@goatsarah @blotosmetek @davidbcohen Thinking about that kid yesterday who got her face blown off and how her funeral today was also attacked by bombs.
Tough shit for her, ey?
Dead brown babies mean nothing to these people, the inhumanity disgusts and enrages me
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in reply to Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 • • •Sure, Hezbollah is a scumbag death-cult, but NOTHING excuses what is in effect random terrorism.
It's beyond me how anyone can try and excuse Israel's actions.
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in reply to Will is too honest to be an MP • • •@davidbcohen@twit.social the bar is so fucking low now, the inhumanity everywhere. And as a minority I'm thinking "when will they come for me and will anybody care?"
I've got more in common with the bystanders to these bombs than the people plotting them.
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in reply to Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈 • • •Jamie McCarthy
in reply to Will is too honest to be an MP • • •Will is too honest to be an MP
in reply to Jamie McCarthy • • •If no, then it was random.
Stop excusing a racist, genocidal Apartheid regime.
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in reply to Jamie McCarthy • • •You can ask the same question of any civil war - which Palestine and Israel having overlapping territorial aims is relevant.
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in reply to Charlie Stross • • •@goatsarah @blotosmetek @davidbcohen Were hospital staffers being given pagers to receive messages from Hezbollah leadership? That seems un-useful to hospitals and unwise for Hezbollah.
So they would have changed the CAP code, right? In which case those pagers would not have gotten the fatal message?
WellsiteGeo
in reply to Sarah Brown • • •@goatsarah @blotosmetek @davidbcohen
"since you can only buy a walkie talkie if you have your Hezbollah membership card,"
Evidence? Or speculation?
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Your inhumanity sickens
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in reply to Charlie Stross • • •@blotosmetek Victims. Just like civilians in Israel killed by mortar or missile strikes. And the only solution to that is peace everywhere - which sadly we are nowhere near.
I wish everyone would tolerate everyone else and nobody would have to attack anyone. However, in this case the attack was absolutely as targeted as possible, by turning devices issued to and used by the enemy force into the weapon. If you have to have shots fired, seems better to me than the indiscriminate bombing.
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in reply to jwz • • •Well... all electric bikes basically are..
Or... not a bomb, really, more like a pipe fire hazard that cannot be easily put out...
Persephone
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •the thing for me with this, is that they got this deep into their suppliers to distribute thousands of remote explosives around the world. Basically every single bit of tech they have is now suspect. If they can do pagers and radios there is nothing stopping then doing keyboards, laptops, phones, headphones, or any thing else with a power supply. The level of institutional mistrust and chaos this is going to create is priceless.
I would not be surprised at this point if something else explodes tomorrow.
They could have bugged everything, but instead boom.
Yvan
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •WellsiteGeo
in reply to Charlie Stross • • •What gets me about this ...
This is a classic type of "command & control decapitation" attack. Up there with bombing Berlin while landing in Calais/ Normandy, who knew in the first few hours?
So ... where is the second round?
I read : some politician forced Mossad/Shin Bet to use a long-prepared attack ... but has bottled-out at phase 2 (re-invasion of Lebanon).
Corollary : the spooks are REALLY pissed at wasting a long-prepared attack. $politician$ has a potent internal enemy.
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I suspect the type of intelligence officer who has a pulse tends to be a right-winger.
I've never trusted *any* government sufficiently to lend that sort of support. I literally can't conceive of the left-wingers I associate with being so naïvely stupid. Right-wingers - they *loooove* the grinding of jack-boots into faces.
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