We applaud Meta’s efforts to try to fix its over-censorship problem but will watch closely to make sure it is a good-faith effort and rolled out fairly and not merely a political maneuver to accommodate the upcoming U.S. administration change. eff.org/deeplinks/2025/01/eff-…
EFF Statement on Meta's Announcement of Revisions to Its Content Moderation Processes
In general, EFF supports moves that bring more freedom of expression and transparency to platforms—regardless of their political motivation.Electronic Frontier Foundation
Noxy 🐾🏳️🌈
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •What basis do you have for assuming good-faith from Facebook?
I usually trust the EFF but this statement concerns me.
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in reply to Noxy 🐾🏳️🌈 • • •@noxypaws This statement should probably cause you to reevaluate your trust for the EFF. I don't think anybody, ever, has ever accused facebook of "over-moderation", except outright fascists.
What the absolute fuck, EFF?
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •no.
NO.
Ned ‘Jonathan’ Schofield
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •The Queen of Weltschmerz🏳️⚧️
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •There you go less censorship
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Meta is a rotten corporation, not a freedom fighting NGO. Everything they do is compromised and what you're signaling by your statement is trust in them? Are you for real?
Facebook Deletes Internal Employee Criticism of New Board Member Dana White
Jason Koebler (404 Media)Cairo Braga [toot]
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •UNREAL
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Dan FitzGerald
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •other people have been more eloquent here, so I wont try to duplicate their reasoning. I'll just go straight to what I am feeling, in my gut. So, to whomever wrote this post:
Take a long walk off a short pier.
David Plisken 🏳️⚧️ BLM! 🇵🇸
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Ret
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •1) This is just an embarrassingly bad take and whoever wrote it should feel embarrassed, and
2) Meta has never had an "over censorship" problem. I have reported blatant racism, transphobia that was well into the territory of incitement to violence, recruitment fraud, ads for illegal drugs, smuggled cigarettes, and academic cheating services, medical advice that would kill people if they followed it, etc. etc. NOTHING has EVER been taken down. Only thing they ever take down is boobs.
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Justice for Snarbo
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Unknown parent • • •Bolt
in reply to Bolt • • •I wholly understand the nuance you're going for, with the understanding that Meta still had issues with over-moderating other topics, or censoring for the sake of brand safety over all else, but I think you haven't exactly communicated this in a way that shows how much you truly wish for out of these companies.
This feels more like a corporate statement after a scandal than it does a proper critique of their new stance.
Wilfried Klaebe
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •John Wilker 👨🏽💻
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •This is a bad look. You’re familiar with Lucy, Charlie Brown and the football?
What in Facebook’s history would lead you to think there’s good faith to be had.
Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Noxy 🐾🏳️🌈
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Teknique is my middle name
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •I love y'all. I’ve donated for ages both formally and throwing cash to your booths at various cons. I'm a fan and proud member.
But WTF. No. I can't think of a plausible way to describe Meta as "over-moderated”, nor can I think of a realistic scenario where they’ll actually do this in good faith.
If they want to earn a good reputation, they can begin by starting to act civilly for the first time ever. If that happens, and they keep it up for a few years, *maybe* then I’ll believe it.
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •This is a shameful and pathetic response.
Phil Betts
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?
The Onion Staff (The Onion)Victor Zambrano
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •The Shaking Earth
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •if you're buying this shit I have a bridge to sell you, too
god
the wide-eyed naivety of this statement
Niléane
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Marta Threadbare
in reply to Eniko Fox • • •Bernie the Wordsmith has moved to Neopaquita.es
in reply to Marta Threadbare • • •Marta Threadbare
in reply to Bernie the Wordsmith has moved to Neopaquita.es • • •The Internet Is Not Facebook: Why Infrastructure Providers Should Stay Out of Content Policing
Electronic Frontier FoundationEniko Fox
in reply to Marta Threadbare • • •Lady Homealot 🖖will not comply
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •FinchHaven infosec
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •The #EFF has become nothing but a lapdog, a dutiful mouthpiece for the advance of global #Oligarchy and #Kleptocracy
For shame, for shame
Except that no one within the EFF has any shame
gz
in reply to FinchHaven infosec • • •Wut?
Andrew
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Dorothea Salo
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •This absolute shitpile -- and similar; this is not the first time you've screwed the pooch this way -- is why I no longer support you financially.
You know why this is fucked up. Shame on you, and fix your hearts.
frlan
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •HowToPhil (Phillip R)
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •It is clearly a political maneuver
Jo
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Electronic Frontier Foundation
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •2something likes this.
J.P. Wing
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Oof, sounds like a certain org is getting hit in the pocketbook.
Trust less.
FinchHaven infosec
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •So
You didn't do your homework and blew it completely
And now you're trying to cover your *ss
Not buying it
Not buying it for one second
Sally Strange
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Shrig 🐌
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •BashStKid reshared this.
Ash Greytree
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech—No Matter How Awful It Is.
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •i cannot believe that in the year 2025, you actually let someone basically write a 'no actually, we should hear the Nazis out, they might have good ideas' article.
You're fucking idiots if you think that granting such largess to demonstrably bad faith actors is going anywhere good.
You *do not* tolerate intolerance.
It's a social pact we make to tolerate others to ensure a peaceful society.
Break the pact, prepare to get whacked.
Sarah Grisham
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Fully operational gator system
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Good, I figured y'all just hadn't gotten the full picture.
To a lot of people, it seemed there for a moment y'all were going mask-off in support of social manipulation and corporate greed. A scary direction for the EFF.
Saying that to your Fedi audience... 😰
In today's day and age, it's not just what is censored but what is also promoted. Hate speech and factual misinformation were already rampant of the Meta platforms, as they are on the X platform. Social media companies are companies, they will follow what they think will bring them profit and follow what they believe the trend is. Right now, they believe far-right politicians represent their best interests and far-right ideology is trending. Therefore, it makes sense to calibrate their policies and algorithms to support those ideas.
If these platforms were neutral, removing this censorship would already be a pretty bad idea. These platforms definitely aren't neutral, and they already had tremendous issues with content related to hate speech before this decision.
Even 4chan has moderation,
... show moreGood, I figured y'all just hadn't gotten the full picture.
To a lot of people, it seemed there for a moment y'all were going mask-off in support of social manipulation and corporate greed. A scary direction for the EFF.
Saying that to your Fedi audience... 😰
In today's day and age, it's not just what is censored but what is also promoted. Hate speech and factual misinformation were already rampant of the Meta platforms, as they are on the X platform. Social media companies are companies, they will follow what they think will bring them profit and follow what they believe the trend is. Right now, they believe far-right politicians represent their best interests and far-right ideology is trending. Therefore, it makes sense to calibrate their policies and algorithms to support those ideas.
If these platforms were neutral, removing this censorship would already be a pretty bad idea. These platforms definitely aren't neutral, and they already had tremendous issues with content related to hate speech before this decision.
Even 4chan has moderation, it shouldn't be more moderated than the one service our collective grandparents were actually motivated to figure out how to use.
Jonbjohns
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Jonbjohns
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •PJB
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •you fucking idiots saw Zuck making an announcement full of blatant dogwhistles and decided to fucking cheer on him. Then went "whoops, we didn't expect this" when the obvious thing happened.
The only thing you can do to regain any reputation is to delete your post IMMEDIATELY and fucking write an apology explaining how you could possibly fuck up so much.
Dorothea Salo
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Yeah, no, wholly inadequate.
I don't see an apology here to all the people (myself included) you just threw under the hate bus.
We deserve one. An ABJECT one. Y'all seriously screwed the pooch. Own it and apologize.
Electronic Frontier Foundation
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Meta’s New Content Policy Will Harm Vulnerable Users. If It Really Valued Free Speech, It Would Make These Changes
Electronic Frontier FoundationMalachi17
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵]
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •it was a mistake to project good faith onto the company in this the year 2025?
8 years after the Rohingya genocide? You still gave them the benefit of the doubt?
Is there any kind of internal self-evaluation happening at the organization or even in your own heads asking yourselves why you made such a poor choice? In, and I cannot stress this enough…. 2025?
Pau Amma
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Shrig 🐌
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Stop wasting your energy with this, apologise fully and meaningfully for your repeated naivety and trust for Meta and finally encourage its abandonment and suffocation while elevating its community owned alternatives
Shrig 🐌
in reply to Shrig 🐌 • • •JoeBecomeTheSun
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Dorothea Salo
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Y'all will do or say anything to avoid OWNING YOUR SHIT, won't you?
Own. Your. Shit.
You've been simping for hate for a long time. Figure out how you're going to NOT DO THAT ANY MORE, apologize for doing it at all, and then don't do it again.
You get not one penny and not one word of praise from me until you fix your hearts and your practices.
nil
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Yann 不停 Heurtaux 🔻
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Reed Mideke
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •You applaud Zuck's transparent efforts to kiss Trump's ass? Really? How embarrassing for you.
"We sincerely hope that the lightened restrictions announced by Meta will apply uniformly, and not just to hot-button U.S. political topics"
LMAO, you can't be *that* gullible
"Censorship, broadly, is not the answer to misinformation"
Ah right, so Facebook could have avoided its role in the Rohingya genocide by… I dunno, community notes saying "some people think massacres are bad, actually"? 🤔
Log 🪵
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Tattie
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •so how much did Zuckerberg pay you to pen this bootlicking puff piece?
Just go ahead and change your user avatar to Pepe the frog like the rest of the "Free Speech (specifically and only for Nazis)" brigade.
Pau Amma
in reply to Tattie • • •Tattie
in reply to Pau Amma • • •Anarchic Teapot ⚧️
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •And that's a "who the fuck do you think you're trying to fool" from me.
Moderation isn't censorship, it's enabling a fair playing-field.
v0idness
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Dan Fixes Coin-Ops
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Richard Vasquez
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Seriously?
transparency.meta.com/policies…
Section "Tier 2". It's ok to dump on the mental health of gay or trans people?
What is wrong with you?
Discurso de Incentivo ao Ódio | Centro de Transparência
transparency.meta.comPaco Hope #resist
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •oh come ON. Facebook is nearly TWENTY years old. We have so much ample evidence of their intents and trustworthiness. EFF are usually more savvy than this.
POSIWID: Purpose of a system is what it does. Don’t put scare quotes around “mistakes”. Say flat out why we think this explanation is absurd. They are long past any benefit of any doubt. They now should receive the full weight of doubt. They earned our skepticism year after year, cynical reversal after cynical reversal.
brianpierini
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Fully operational gator system
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •respectfully, I think that you (the person in charge of this account) perhaps don't quite realize what this actually means, and why we're not happy about it. This isn't a play at making these platforms more transparent or democratized, this is to allow hate speech that financially benefits the platform to spread unimpeded. They now have carte blanch to allow their algorithms to further agitate and misinform their user base into capital H harmful beliefs that can cause physical, material harm to others.
In short, I think calling this a bad take is an understatement. Perhaps... Read the room. You probably would have picked up the general vibe on this subject was extremely negative by the kinds of people who are often aligned with EFF values.
ineiti
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •The article is in fact not as bad as most people point out. The worst part is the last paragraph, which is also used as intro in this toot. It goes against the rest of the article where the EFF points out censorship against minorities, which should effectively not be done.
Unfortunately, having listened to Mark's ramblings in his 6-minute video, what Meta calls "Free Speech" is mostly "Free Hate". Combining with algorithms which push for more engagement, and the human brain which lusts after controversies and hate, this is just a recipe for disaster.
Anyway, time to write that last message on WhatsApp and ditch my final link with Meta...
Paul J Wege
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •@pluralistic whats going on there? maybe the next essay could be about braineating worms? 😡🤯🤢
s427
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Kevin Russell
in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •Fucking years of support for EFF gone forever.
@EFF BLOCKED
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in reply to Electronic Frontier Foundation • • •WTF is it with tech people at the moment "both-sides-ing" these fascists!?
Recently @protonprivacy and now @eff .
Are you guys sniffing your own fumes?