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67% of Arab world: October 7 was 'legitimate resistance' against Israel


in reply to Rapidcreek

in reply to Rapidcreek

Yes it was legitimate. Stupid too. Because of course Israel would respond in this over-the-top manner.
in reply to Izzgo

Their attacks on military bases were legitimate, but attacking civilian populations was not and should never be tolerated. Even if you want to say that the settlers are not civilians (at least it has some logic, unlike israel's excuses), they killed indiscriminately, including tens of children.
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in reply to Infiltrated_ad8271

I don't think anyone is defending the actual killing of civilians. The idea is that the civilians who died (including by Israeli hands, by the way, can't forget that), were incidental and had no basis in leadership orders. AFAIK the plan was go attack Israeli bases and soldiers, take hostages, return to the strip, but since Hamas isn't exactly a properly trained modern army and Israel just shelled and shot their own citizens the numbers got this bad.
in reply to Izzgo

I mean it's doing more damage to Israel than a century of peace could, so I don't think "stupid" applies. Whether it was right to do it when the response would predictably be like this is another story, but due to October 7th support for Israel is now more controversial than ever before.
in reply to Rapidcreek

The blood feud just makes me feel... tired. And sad for the whole region.
in reply to Rapidcreek

To me, the crazy thing is that 33% of the Arab world doesn't think it was legitimate resistance.

The October 7th attack was clearly terrorism. But to have such a big percentage of the Arab world seem to agree with that, even in such an insanely one-sided situation as the ongoing occupation of Gaza, means:

A lot of people want peace.

in reply to Rapidcreek

As suspected. 63% of the Arab world are propagandized.
in reply to Bezerker03

Hard to claim this when the Arab governments are anti Palestine. I personally learned about the conflict from reading Israeli authors and historians like Ilan Pappe, my government didn't teach me shit.
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in reply to من البحر إلى النهر

Do you really think Israeli authors and historians can be trusted to produce a non biased account here?
in reply to Alexandra Lanes

@roastedDeflator @World News My Arabic is not up to translating the whole thing, but some headline figures from my quick skim.

59% of Arabs are following the news about Gaza daily
54% following it mainly by satellite TV, 36% by social media
84% feeling psychological pressure because of the war
67% think the Hamas attack on 7/10/2023 was a legitimate resistance operation
67% think Hamas is totally unlike ISIS
69% stand in solidarity with Gaza and Hamas

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in reply to Rapidcreek

How the fuck did you even interview them? The governments of many Arab countries in this survey would kidnap and jail you indefinitely without trail if you support Palestine in public or on social media, and many other cave in to what they are expected to say. It's garbage in garbage out
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in reply to Rapidcreek

I'm surprised it is this low.

Edit: the comments are hell. But what else to except from propagandized westerners that never cared to know from Arabs.

I wish our leaders had a sense of shame or honour, instead many of them are collaborators.

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
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in reply to Rapidcreek

A: raping and brutally killing is legitimate for what you do to us!

B: launching rockets on your civilian buildings is legitimate for what you do to us!

and goes on and on...

Edit: downvoted because I just triggered both parties

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in reply to Rapidcreek

Whoever agree with the "legitimate resistance" legitimates everything in this website:

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https://www.hamas-massacre.net/
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in reply to speaker_hat

I don’t think you want to play the game of who can show who did worse things.

It is Israel, 100%.

Israel has killed 20 times that number and leveled whole families and neighborhoods slaughtering tons of innocent children.