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In one of the appendices to 1984, regarding the construction of the now-defunct Newspeak, the meta-narrator refers to Ingsoc, and indeed the State, in the historical sense. The implication is absolutely that Oceania collapsed as a whole, likely not long after Winston Smith's suicide. Except nobody seems to read that part, or for that matter the 'extra' chapter in A Clockwork Orange...
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@Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊 Yeah. You’re right that so many people miss that.

And the signs are there when Winston sees how O’Brien lives. They do not have the stomach to eradicate everything of the old because they themselves are utter raging hypocrites.

I’m pretty sure Orwell intended Winston to be absolutely completely wrong when he decided the only hope lay with the Proles. The Proles don’t give a shit, and were never going to give a shit.

But you have to recruit the Inner Party from somewhere, and the very nature of these states is that your politburo and your military are in on it, and full of people who would, if given the chance, seize power for themselves.

The leadership of totalitarian states are going to inevitably degenerate into fighting like rats in a sack. It’s unavoidable.

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Apparently you missed BLM, Occupy, etc. GTFO with that "Americans don't protest massively" BS when we don't have as much union representation as France.

EDIT: Not to mention that you missed the protests in Tennessee.

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US Pol
As another great example of "rotting from the top" I'd suggest Iran as another current, obvious case.
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How do we prevent them from still claiming that the acceptance of minorities as equal and visible parts of society is the same sort of reshaping of society?

From their perspective the government seems like an authoritarian dictatorship trying to change their views.

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The two are qualitatively different. When I, as a trans woman, seek acceptance, I am not asking that anyone transition and live their life the way I do. I merely ask to be left alone to live my life.

I run a business. I am not asking to discriminate against people who don’t live the way I do when I provide my services. I am not demanding the ability to do so from the government. I don’t like transphobes, and other forms of intolerant people, but I am not demanding the right to remove them from any sphere where I might happen to encounter them.

They, on the other hand, have decided that their values require that I pretend to be just like them, or be removed from society. They demand to be able to reshape society so as to make it all but impossible for people like me to exist, and, if they were to succeed, to erase us from history and the future.

I think they’re arseholes, but I don’t seek the right to deny them the option of being arseholes.

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@Sarah Brown Thanks for sharing your observations and thoughts on this. Living in the state of Florida, I have a front row seat to the current s#!tshow and appreciate your point that totalitarians do not practice what they preach.
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The good thing about Republicans is that they are absolutely insane. The people don't support them and they're gonna get hammered in elections because most don't want to live in a fascist dystopia with no freedoms.