you may not believe this, but back in 2018 (I was 14) I was such a huge fan of Elon Musk my sister gifted me this for my birthday. This was one year before moving to San Jose and meeting people who actually work for him, or experiencing his absolute meltdown over people not coming to work for following pandemic rules. I read his book and everything. All because of the PewDiePipeline
The main thing is that we are capable of integrating new information into our world view. The people who seem incapable of change - such as Elon Musk, Donald Trump and so forth - are the real problem here.
I thought he was an okay guy too. I liked how he talked about his projects and that he didn't try to put icing on failure.
Then I started seeing the signs and I remember telling a friend who liked him all the things that made me change my mind, they were still subtle so we kinda argued. And almost immediately after, he got unhinged and it's now more than obvious.
@hannah it's the pipeline that transports young white boys from simply enjoying YouTube gaming channels (such as PewDiePie) to embracing actual literal fascism. Its a real thing.
1.) One enjoys some gaming channels on YouTube 2.) One of them is PewDiePie 3.) One enjoys PewDiePie's content 4.) One becomes fascist?
I'm not following. Is PewDiePie a fascist? I know he did some really screwed up stuff in the past, but I'm sure I would have read about him embracing fascism (like I read back in the day where he said the "n-word" on stream which led to the YouTube "Adpocalypse" if I remember correctly).
@hannah @itsmeholland let me explain it this way: one day, I was simply watching Minecraft let's plays or meme reviews on YouTube by PewDiePie. From one moment to the next, PewDiePie would include a segment by a man named “Ben Shapiro” who would host the show for him for multiple minutes. I didn't know who this man was, I thought he was just a meme. I was not aware of the fact that he is a far right white supremacist.
Another day I was watching PewDiePie he'd be paying kids in some developing country to write “kill all jews” on a sign and loudly laugh when they actually do it for minimal amounts of money.
As a child, this sent me down a very dangerous path. I am very glad that I was never too deep into any far right bubbles. The media I so naively consumed was, however, full of far right thought content and little shout outs to far righ
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@hannah @itsmeholland let me explain it this way: one day, I was simply watching Minecraft let's plays or meme reviews on YouTube by PewDiePie. From one moment to the next, PewDiePie would include a segment by a man named “Ben Shapiro” who would host the show for him for multiple minutes. I didn't know who this man was, I thought he was just a meme. I was not aware of the fact that he is a far right white supremacist.
Another day I was watching PewDiePie he'd be paying kids in some developing country to write “kill all jews” on a sign and loudly laugh when they actually do it for minimal amounts of money.
As a child, this sent me down a very dangerous path. I am very glad that I was never too deep into any far right bubbles. The media I so naively consumed was, however, full of far right thought content and little shout outs to far right figureheads such as this one. Simply “satire”... about the holocaust, huh. I think it's certainly one beginning of the pipeline and Innuendo Studios coined the term.
This is a good video by Hbomberguy on the topic of PewDiePie and the “kill all jews” incident specifically: youtu.be/GjNILjFters
This is a video by Innuendo Studios that also discusses PewDiePie youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g
It's time to correct the record on The Media, which is definitely out to get me, for some reasonTwitter: https:/twitter.com/hbomberguyPatreon: https://www.pa...
I know Innuendo Studio and (mostly) appreciate his informative videos, I did not know (or remember) this one though. I should (re-)watch that to make sure.
If I summarize what you wrote: The issue is not that he is far-right itself but more that he "exposes" (for a lack of a better word) his (rather young) audience to these ideas. Is that a fair summary?
I used to watch him a bunch when I was young, but that was a very long time ago and by the time he "became controversial" I did not really watch him anymore and did not notice all the drama around that. I never noticed a "far-right pipeline". Though that was arguably because I was very conservative at that time and that was in a period before my egg cracked
@hannah @itsmeholland yeah, I think you summarized it very well. I'd just find it weird to collaborate with Ben Shapiro, especially if you think yours “apolitical” (which isn't a thing)
Far right people are very good in believing they're both "centrist" as well as "apolitical" because they equate their own opinion and perception to "common sense" and lack any education* on self-reflective and critical thinking.
*some might also need actual therapy for suppressed trauma.
@Erik Uden ⁂🥥🌴🍑 musk managed to keep up the pretence that he was an eccentric rocket man who was a bit of a knob, but had his heart in the right place for a long time.
Frank Endrullat 🌻
in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •Fifi Lamoura
in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •Jürgen Hubert
in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •We all had an awkward phase in our youth.
The main thing is that we are capable of integrating new information into our world view. The people who seem incapable of change - such as Elon Musk, Donald Trump and so forth - are the real problem here.
Lena Riess
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in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •qwazix
in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •I thought he was an okay guy too. I liked how he talked about his projects and that he didn't try to put icing on failure.
Then I started seeing the signs and I remember telling a friend who liked him all the things that made me change my mind, they were still subtle so we kinda argued. And almost immediately after, he got unhinged and it's now more than obvious.
Ines64
in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •Hannah (always eepy) :blobcat_sleep:
in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •✨easily traumatized nihilist✨
in reply to Hannah (always eepy) :blobcat_sleep: • • •Hannah (always eepy) :blobcat_sleep:
in reply to ✨easily traumatized nihilist✨ • • •I'm kinda lost, please bear with me:
1.) One enjoys some gaming channels on YouTube
2.) One of them is PewDiePie
3.) One enjoys PewDiePie's content
4.) One becomes fascist?
I'm not following. Is PewDiePie a fascist? I know he did some really screwed up stuff in the past, but I'm sure I would have read about him embracing fascism (like I read back in the day where he said the "n-word" on stream which led to the YouTube "Adpocalypse" if I remember correctly).
Erik Uden 🍑
in reply to Hannah (always eepy) :blobcat_sleep: • • •@hannah @itsmeholland let me explain it this way: one day, I was simply watching Minecraft let's plays or meme reviews on YouTube by PewDiePie. From one moment to the next, PewDiePie would include a segment by a man named “Ben Shapiro” who would host the show for him for multiple minutes. I didn't know who this man was, I thought he was just a meme. I was not aware of the fact that he is a far right white supremacist.
Another day I was watching PewDiePie he'd be paying kids in some developing country to write “kill all jews” on a sign and loudly laugh when they actually do it for minimal amounts of money.
As a child, this sent me down a very dangerous path. I am very glad that I was never too deep into any far right bubbles. The media I so naively consumed was, however, full of far right thought content and little shout outs to far righ
... show more@hannah @itsmeholland let me explain it this way: one day, I was simply watching Minecraft let's plays or meme reviews on YouTube by PewDiePie. From one moment to the next, PewDiePie would include a segment by a man named “Ben Shapiro” who would host the show for him for multiple minutes. I didn't know who this man was, I thought he was just a meme. I was not aware of the fact that he is a far right white supremacist.
Another day I was watching PewDiePie he'd be paying kids in some developing country to write “kill all jews” on a sign and loudly laugh when they actually do it for minimal amounts of money.
As a child, this sent me down a very dangerous path. I am very glad that I was never too deep into any far right bubbles. The media I so naively consumed was, however, full of far right thought content and little shout outs to far right figureheads such as this one. Simply “satire”... about the holocaust, huh. I think it's certainly one beginning of the pipeline and Innuendo Studios coined the term.
This is a good video by Hbomberguy on the topic of PewDiePie and the “kill all jews” incident specifically:
youtu.be/GjNILjFters
This is a video by Innuendo Studios that also discusses PewDiePie
youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g
PewDiePie Is A Nazi
YouTubeHannah (always eepy) :blobcat_sleep:
in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •I know Innuendo Studio and (mostly) appreciate his informative videos, I did not know (or remember) this one though. I should (re-)watch that to make sure.
If I summarize what you wrote:
The issue is not that he is far-right itself but more that he "exposes" (for a lack of a better word) his (rather young) audience to these ideas. Is that a fair summary?
I used to watch him a bunch when I was young, but that was a very long time ago and by the time he "became controversial" I did not really watch him anymore and did not notice all the drama around that.
I never noticed a "far-right pipeline". Though that was arguably because I was very conservative at that time and that was in a period before my egg cracked
Erik Uden 🍑
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in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •Far right people are very good in believing they're both "centrist" as well as "apolitical" because they equate their own opinion and perception to "common sense" and lack any education* on self-reflective and critical thinking.
*some might also need actual therapy for suppressed trauma.
sam henri gold
in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • • •Erik Uden 🍑
in reply to sam henri gold • • •@samhenrigold the oldest I was ever guessed was 34 (by a 30 year old). It's a known problem. We will get through it ✊
Sarah Brown
in reply to Erik Uden 🍑 • •@Erik Uden ⁂🥥🌴🍑 musk managed to keep up the pretence that he was an eccentric rocket man who was a bit of a knob, but had his heart in the right place for a long time.
His descent into open fascism was quite late.
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