in reply to Sarah Brown

I was halfway through an answer in my head when I noticed that you asked for a neurotypical perspective. Very interesting, indeed. But sadly I'm neurodivergent.

But I can tell you from the last hacker congress I attended this year (Gulaschprogammiernacht): When we realize that we are all the same, we stop masking. I had so many interesting chats with other people talking over each other, always switching topics while literally vibrating, waving hands, constantly moving and no eye contact. And it was relaxing! I told one girl who was on the AuDHD spectrum and first she looked like a brick is smashing though a window and then she asked if she can hug me and said "Yes, you are right, I'm having symptoms but I'm fine with it and it relaxes me not to constantly wonder what the neurotypics think, because there are none here!" 😅

in reply to Sarah Brown

The only person I _know_ has ADHD is sensitive, empathetic, caring, clever, creative, lovely, sometimes overly self-criticising, can be emotional and messy in their thinking, in situations where a cooler head would be more useful to themself. Doesn't manage stress well. They is very verbal and can argue that every possibility, individually, is impossible, thus systematically closing every door. But when opportunity knocks, they can OTOH be very flexible and open to it.
in reply to Sarah Brown

Only in hindsight! I've had several friends who, after I've heard that they've been diagnosed, I've gone "oooohh; yeah, that tracks."

So insofar as there are vibes, they're usually subtle enough that they're not usually a "tell" by themselves.

You ever have that experience where somebody tells you something about themselves that you didn't know, and suddenly about 5% of the conversations you've ever had with them get re-contextualised and feel more... authentic? It's like that.

At least from my (neurotypical, probably?) perspective.