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in reply to Sarah Brown

he has a point though, I mean if you wait until "the right time, financially", you'll put it off indefinitely - unless you already have a bank account large enough for you never to worry anyway.

There's never a good time financially to have children, people shouldn't have children because they can afford it, people should have children because they want children. Your worth infinitely increases with each child you have, even if your bank balance doesn't 😅

in reply to MeaTLoTioN

@meatlotion Just wanting to have children isn't enough, you also have to be able to care for your children. All children deserve love and care, they're not objects for parents to use for their own ends. @goatsarah
in reply to Fifi Lamoura

Yeah, kids aren't some kitten you adopt from the animal shelter, and can abandon or have put to sleep when you're tired of them. A kid is an ongoing legal and financial obligation for the next 18 years minimum. Until and unless we actually have durable social safety nets for parents in poverty, it's no surprise that people choose to wait to have children until they feel that they can provide a good life for their kids and themselves.

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@meatlotion @goatsarah

in reply to Jess👾

@JessTheUnstill @fifilamoura Some of us wouldn’t even take on a(n already-born) cat until we felt able to do all that. The idea of subjecting a human child to unready parents who don’t want them fiercely is unconscionable.
in reply to cwicseolfor

Oh certainly. And I consider it terrible from a moral and ethical pov to abandon a pet or return them to a shelter. I hate the "we're giving the kid a puppy for Christmas because they swear they'll take care of them" then get rid of them by February. But also, all sorts of unexpected stuff can happen in life. And it's way less bad to change your mind on a pet then it is whether you want to and are able to raise a child.
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in reply to MeaTLoTioN

@meatlotion everything that fucktard says is utter bollox. He's a disfunctional prick who needs to be certified.
in reply to Kenneth M Sweeney

@KenSwe he can't be _that_ dysfunctional if he is/was the richest guy on the planet.

I agree that he does come out with utter drivel sometimes, but that's not all the time, nor everything he says.

in reply to MeaTLoTioN

@meatlotion Really? You're coming at me with the he's rich so he must be doing something right line?
The guy is utterly detached from the universe and insane. Anyone who takes advice from him deserves the megre existence he has planned for him.
in reply to MeaTLoTioN

@MeaTLoTioN @Kenneth M Sweeney He’s a walking coronary event who has driven away everyone who ever loved him and who could stage an intervention, and now represents everything he used to claim to hate.

Yes, he has a lot of money, but I expect he is utterly miserable.

He does not understand the point of life, and drifts further from it every day.

in reply to Sarah Brown

@meatlotion absolutely. He's also completely full of self contempt. Nobody hates Elon more than Elon.
Fucking rosebud head on him.
in reply to MeaTLoTioN

@meatlotion
@KenSwe
being born rich and scamming your way to billions of dollars is not a skill that translates to having competence in anything else.
in reply to MeaTLoTioN

@meatlotion
On the contrary, one does not amass such wealth without also becoming a total asswipe. Financial success requires killing one's own humanity

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in reply to MeaTLoTioN

@meatlotion
On the contrary, one does not amass such wealth without also becoming a total asswipe. Financial success requires killing one's own humanity

@KenSwe @goatsarah

in reply to Sarah Brown

Terrible fathers keep having children because they're looking for unconditional love and uncritical admiration, a narcissistic fix. They despise their children if they ever manage to become their own people (and also despise them if they don't). It's child abuse.
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in reply to Sarah Brown

Uspol

Ah yes, the richest person in the world, who has never actually raised any of his 11 children, and who hasn't birthed any of them, telling people "just don't worry about how much having kids costs, just have more!" At a rally for a Presidential candidate whose policies are laser focused to eliminate even what extremely meager social safety nets still exist in this country.

Some real "Let them eat cake" energy here. We should follow it with the next note in that story too. :guillotine:

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