Starting to think either a civil war or military coup and “interim administration to restore order” in the US in the next decade is now more likely than not. 😞
@clacksee The place is clearly due some sort of hard reset. I had hope it could avoid it - at least within my lifetime, now I'm not so sure.
The first US civil war wasn't, really, civil. Because there was a foreign occupying power to fight. Maybe every nation has to go through a 'proper' one. It certainly feels like the nation is irreperably split. Maybe that will keep them occupied for the next 4 years.
Six years ago I was sat next to a US academic at the Oxford Union and asked if he shared my feeling back then that the country had the ingredients for another civil war. The man did his best to reassure me that there was no prospect of that, even after two years of 45. I often think of him and whether he ever thinks back to that conversation with the limey granny who was there to speak for a motion about drama’s impact on politics.
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in reply to Shouty person • • •@clacksee The place is clearly due some sort of hard reset. I had hope it could avoid it - at least within my lifetime, now I'm not so sure.
The first US civil war wasn't, really, civil. Because there was a foreign occupying power to fight. Maybe every nation has to go through a 'proper' one. It certainly feels like the nation is irreperably split. Maybe that will keep them occupied for the next 4 years.
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They happen. They’re never pleasant.
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Googled it, btw. Thanks for the Wiki homework. 😁
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I would think the first real flashpoint will be in four years time. If Trump's still functioning, I can't see him quietly retiring.
I'm slightly less worried about Project 2025 after seeing his cabinet picks. A societal collapse is more likely now.
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