I haven't read the books. I kind of lost track of what Helen and Daniel were trying to do before the car was hijacked. Following up on the missing audio tape? It feels like their narrative kind of abruptly hit a dead-end, and then there's two weeks of them confused in a car. Given the emphasis on the Pez dispenser, I'm guessing they won't be seeing the Sun again.
I'm also kind of wondering how they could have kept such a massive engineering project secret, even from Congress, especially considering its rather weird mix of retrofuturist tech; I'd have thought a more "conventional" design would have been cheaper and faster, and by cheaper and faster I mean, less implausible. Like, the scale of the excavation and construction for one of the vaults would have made Hoover Dam look easy.
@FoolishOwl OK, so S3 has diverged massively from Shift (Silo book 2), especially in the 21st century subplot. The silos are obviously being built for the same reason, but the details behind how they are getting built are rather different. In Shift they are not a secret project. They are not presented as things for humans to occupy though, but rather as a civil engineering project consisting of 50 concrete lined kilometre deep holes in the ground with a specific purpose, and Daniel (Donald in the book) is brought in by Thurman much earlier, and the whole cloak and dagger subplot is not there (neither is the Simms subplot; in Shift Lucas is straightforwardly Bernard's shadow).
Shift is also dramatic irony because we find out considerably before now WHAT the big threat is and what is killing the people sent out to clean (the residents of Silo 18 spend quite a lot of Shift trying to work it out and come to some very uncomfortable conclusions). They have left a LOT of clues in th
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@FoolishOwl OK, so S3 has diverged massively from Shift (Silo book 2), especially in the 21st century subplot. The silos are obviously being built for the same reason, but the details behind how they are getting built are rather different. In Shift they are not a secret project. They are not presented as things for humans to occupy though, but rather as a civil engineering project consisting of 50 concrete lined kilometre deep holes in the ground with a specific purpose, and Daniel (Donald in the book) is brought in by Thurman much earlier, and the whole cloak and dagger subplot is not there (neither is the Simms subplot; in Shift Lucas is straightforwardly Bernard's shadow).
Shift is also dramatic irony because we find out considerably before now WHAT the big threat is and what is killing the people sent out to clean (the residents of Silo 18 spend quite a lot of Shift trying to work it out and come to some very uncomfortable conclusions). They have left a LOT of clues in the programme, but I suspect most people who haven't read the books haven't worked it out yet.
The retrofuture tech is deliberate, and one of many things which look like plot holes in the books but aren't. This is not a "fallout" alternate universe; it's a plausible extension of our timeline. I think the 21st century flashbacks in Shift are set a bit later than the programme. Got the impression the Donald/Helen stuff was somewhere around 2060 in the book, and it feels like about 2040 here.
I read an overview of the books, but it didn't go into much detail. Probably fortunately. Like, it said Juliette made it to Silo 17 and came back, which left out almost everything in the last season.
@FoolishOwl So not gonna spoil you, but the memory drug subplot was someone else in the books and because of other narrative changes they can't do that in the same way.
But I'm pretty sure I figured out how they're going to do it.
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I haven't read the books. I kind of lost track of what Helen and Daniel were trying to do before the car was hijacked. Following up on the missing audio tape? It feels like their narrative kind of abruptly hit a dead-end, and then there's two weeks of them confused in a car. Given the emphasis on the Pez dispenser, I'm guessing they won't be seeing the Sun again.
I'm also kind of wondering how they could have kept such a massive engineering project secret, even from Congress, especially considering its rather weird mix of retrofuturist tech; I'd have thought a more "conventional" design would have been cheaper and faster, and by cheaper and faster I mean, less implausible. Like, the scale of the excavation and construction for one of the vaults would have made Hoover Dam look easy.
Sarah Brown
in reply to FoolishOwl • •@FoolishOwl OK, so S3 has diverged massively from Shift (Silo book 2), especially in the 21st century subplot. The silos are obviously being built for the same reason, but the details behind how they are getting built are rather different. In Shift they are not a secret project. They are not presented as things for humans to occupy though, but rather as a civil engineering project consisting of 50 concrete lined kilometre deep holes in the ground with a specific purpose, and Daniel (Donald in the book) is brought in by Thurman much earlier, and the whole cloak and dagger subplot is not there (neither is the Simms subplot; in Shift Lucas is straightforwardly Bernard's shadow).
Shift is also dramatic irony because we find out considerably before now WHAT the big threat is and what is killing the people sent out to clean (the residents of Silo 18 spend quite a lot of Shift trying to work it out and come to some very uncomfortable conclusions). They have left a LOT of clues in th
... Show more...@FoolishOwl OK, so S3 has diverged massively from Shift (Silo book 2), especially in the 21st century subplot. The silos are obviously being built for the same reason, but the details behind how they are getting built are rather different. In Shift they are not a secret project. They are not presented as things for humans to occupy though, but rather as a civil engineering project consisting of 50 concrete lined kilometre deep holes in the ground with a specific purpose, and Daniel (Donald in the book) is brought in by Thurman much earlier, and the whole cloak and dagger subplot is not there (neither is the Simms subplot; in Shift Lucas is straightforwardly Bernard's shadow).
Shift is also dramatic irony because we find out considerably before now WHAT the big threat is and what is killing the people sent out to clean (the residents of Silo 18 spend quite a lot of Shift trying to work it out and come to some very uncomfortable conclusions). They have left a LOT of clues in the programme, but I suspect most people who haven't read the books haven't worked it out yet.
The retrofuture tech is deliberate, and one of many things which look like plot holes in the books but aren't. This is not a "fallout" alternate universe; it's a plausible extension of our timeline. I think the 21st century flashbacks in Shift are set a bit later than the programme. Got the impression the Donald/Helen stuff was somewhere around 2060 in the book, and it feels like about 2040 here.
Sarah Brown
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The pez dispenser …
Oh … shit
You clever bastards
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Sarah Brown
in reply to FoolishOwl • •@FoolishOwl So not gonna spoil you, but the memory drug subplot was someone else in the books and because of other narrative changes they can't do that in the same way.
But I'm pretty sure I figured out how they're going to do it.