Oh, cool! I thought it was Wales for the first couple of generations and then moved to China for Gen 4 or Pi Zero or something. Not sure where I got that idea, and I'm glad to be wrong.
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I think "less than a working day" is a moderately reasonable use of "few hours". like "a few seconds" can reasonably be "anything [≥2s] too small to be described in minutes"
If it's 3.5 to 4.5 as lnr says, then that's clearly "a few".
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I'd tend not to use "a few" of anything to mean "two", though I guess there's no hard reason not to. I certainly wouldn't use "a few" to mean anything less than two, and I think I'm safe in assuming that this is generally held to be a lower-limit?
So I guess you're using "a few hours" to mean "somewhere between two and three hours"?
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@sparrowsion @mobbsy I think using "a couple to mean "a small handful" is normal; German distinguishes the usage between paar and ein Paar, the latter of which is a strictly-two couple; the former of which can be a thruple or whatever if it wants to, we don't judge.
@sesquipedality @lnr @mobbsy Ouch. I've just looked on ebay at prices for RPi models. with delivery I'm looking at about €40 for a zero and about €50-€90 for other models. That's kinda a lot given that I can find second hand laptops starting at about €50.
@Adam @Eleanor LNR Blair @Sesquipedality @mobbsy Laptops don't generally have GPIO pins and suchlike. They also, IME, make extremely poor servers because of the form factor. Horses for courses.
@sesquipedality @lnr @mobbsy That finds me a zero for a mere €26 including delivery, which I guess is an improvement but is still quite a lot for the minimalist option.
@lnr @sesquipedality @mobbsy Oh, I get that. It's just galling because there's SO MUCH MORE STUFF in a laptop.
It's like the cheapest cotton T-shirt is about a quarter the price of the cheapest 30x30cm square of cotton fabric. But if you don't want your fabric made of T-shirt material, you have to pay the extra.
@Sesquipedality @Eleanor LNR Blair @Adam @mobbsy I’ve found that if it’s doing video processing for HomeKit secure video, a 4 will will run the fan once every minute or so, for a few seconds, to prevent throttling.
So far the 5 seems to run a fair bit cooler. IME, 4S idle at about 60°. The 5 seems to be idling at 50°
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in reply to Sarah Brown • • •I wonder if someone’s built a gaming rig desktop case for a Pi and done watercooling and everything.
I wonder the dumbest things.
So what shall the Pi do? Got anything lined up for it?
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in reply to Adam • • •though I believe they're now manufactured in a country committing genocide, which is my primary "do not buy" threshold.
ETA: apparently I was wrong, see downthread.
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Unknown parent • • •I think "less than a working day" is a moderately reasonable use of "few hours". like "a few seconds" can reasonably be "anything [≥2s] too small to be described in minutes"
If it's 3.5 to 4.5 as lnr says, then that's clearly "a few".
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Unknown parent • • •I'd tend not to use "a few" of anything to mean "two", though I guess there's no hard reason not to. I certainly wouldn't use "a few" to mean anything less than two, and I think I'm safe in assuming that this is generally held to be a lower-limit?
So I guess you're using "a few hours" to mean "somewhere between two and three hours"?
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in reply to Sarah Brown • • •@lnr @sesquipedality @mobbsy Oh, I get that. It's just galling because there's SO MUCH MORE STUFF in a laptop.
It's like the cheapest cotton T-shirt is about a quarter the price of the cheapest 30x30cm square of cotton fabric. But if you don't want your fabric made of T-shirt material, you have to pay the extra.
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Unknown parent • •@Sesquipedality @Eleanor LNR Blair @Adam @mobbsy I’ve found that if it’s doing video processing for HomeKit secure video, a 4 will will run the fan once every minute or so, for a few seconds, to prevent throttling.
So far the 5 seems to run a fair bit cooler. IME, 4S idle at about 60°. The 5 seems to be idling at 50°
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