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Increasingly getting the impression that MacOS Sonoma is a lemon, and best avoided.

Interestingly, when it bricked my M1 Pro MBP, and I had to recover from the recovery partition, it reinstalled Ventura.

And the new Macs ship with Ventura, with no Sonoma upgrade available.

Now seeing that the 14.1 update has screwed a load of webcam stuff used by remote workers.

I think I'm gonna keep my MBP on Ventura for now. My Mac mini server is on Sonoma, but all that's doing is hosting Linux VMs.

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Ted
Ted
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I think I’m gonna keep my MBP on Ventura for now.


I've done the same on my iMac. When Sonoma became available, I decided to wait before "upgrading."

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Fiona Craig
Fiona Craig
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Thanks for sharing - I'm still running Monterey on my old Intel MBP for now!
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Sarah Brown
Sarah Brown
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@Fiona Craig From what I can tell, the problems with Sonoma are mostly on Apple silicon.
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Rachel Lawson
Rachel Lawson
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got to say that Sonoma has been great for me. 2015 iMac 27”
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Sarah Brown
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@Rachel Lawson It was great for me until photolibraryd decided it needed 40 gigabytes of swap constantly.

I had to nuke the entire OS to stop it.

And poor Zoe has just been locked out of her work meetings because 14.1 completely fucked external webcam support.

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Sarah Brown
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@Rachel Lawson It should be noted that Apple are selling their latest machines with Ventura installed, AND NO ABILITY to install Sonoma. That’s telling.
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Madagascar_Sky
Madagascar_Sky
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'...hosting Linux VMs.'

is this the new '..torrenting Linux ISOs'?

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Sarah Brown
Sarah Brown
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@Madagascar_Sky maybe? The friendica server I’m posting this on is running on a Linux VM on that Mac Mini M2.
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Madagascar_Sky
Madagascar_Sky
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Oh, ok. All legit usecases then. I used to provide peer to peer torrenting for a lot of 'linux iso's' back when.
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Miguel Arroz
Miguel Arroz
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Sonoma is by far the worst release in years, maybe ever, since the initial version of OS X. It keeps getting generally worse, not better, but this year was a huge leap backwards.
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Sarah Brown
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@Miguel Arroz in staying with Ventura on my MBP. I am very nervous, having upgraded my Mac Mini server to Sonoma. It’s behaving though, touch-wood.
@Miguel Arroz
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Miguel Arroz
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I’ve been having lots of stability issues with VMs running on a M1 mini. Not sure if it’s a UTM or an OS problem but never happened on Ventura.
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Sarah Brown
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@Miguel Arroz I’ve got 2 UTM Linux VMs on my M2 Mini and they’re solid at the moment.

I’m just not gonna touch it. Probably hold off on further upgrades until 14.2 at least.

@Miguel Arroz
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Miguel Arroz
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I have two Linux and one FreeBSD. Since Sonoma they randomly hang after running for a few days. After this latest update (14.1.1) I had a hard time trying to even boot them up. UTM couldn’t start the VMs at all, didn’t get to the phase where it shows fhe big UTM logo in the window just before handing the console to the guest OS.
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Sarah Brown
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@Miguel Arroz That sounds profoundly buggered indeed.

Touchwood I’m ok. The 6 days uptime is because of a power outage 6 days ago.

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Sarah Brown
Sarah Brown
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@Becky @Rachel Lawson no. AIUI it is disappeared for the new M3 machines.
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Sarah Brown
Sarah Brown
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@Becky @Rachel Lawson I don’t have an M3
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