They aren't what they are called. Chicago pizza isn't a pizza, SpaceX Starship doesn't go to the stars, a King Cobra isn't a cobra, and the Holy Roman Empire was not holy, not roman and not an empire.
@po8crg I think that Chicago pizza is at least similar enough to unqualified pizza to bear the _qualified_ name. It's perfectly standard for an X Y to be _somewhat_ different from the prototypical Y, and I don't think that chicago pizza exceeds that level of difference, unless "pizza" is defined _particularly_ narrowly.
(disclaimer, it's been many years since I've eaten a Chicago pizza. It didn't make a massive impression on me, gastronomically-speaking.)
@pseudomonas It ain't remotely a quiche. I've yet to encounter one that included eggs or had a pastry crust. As a linguistic realist, I believe foods are what they are called if they are called that by enough people who eat those foods. @goatsarah @po8crg
LIke I said, no egg, no pastry crust. That's a yeasted crust. (Some might have egg if they're filled with ricotta, which sometimes gets a bit of egg to fluff it up.) @po8crg @pseudomonas
@FeralRobots @Richard Gadsden @Adam Have to say, the intricacies of baked gluten products escape me, since I have to file them all under “poison” these days.
@po8crg @pseudomonas for me 'quiche' implies something that's mainly egg-based, so it doesn't fall into that category, though it is as much a pie as it is a pizza.
@Nick Barlow @Richard Gadsden @Adam Now now, as Adam says, we shouldn’t be too prescriptive. If the good people of Chicago want to eschew egg in their quiche, who are we to judge?
I should, however, note that Welsh Rarebit actually is pizza.
@lnr Maybe, but it does highlight one of the key problems with quiche. (My workaround is to warm it from chilled until the crust gets soft. Not ideal, but better than cold crust or hot filling.) @goatsarah @po8crg @pseudomonas
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in reply to Richard Gadsden • • •@po8crg I think that Chicago pizza is at least similar enough to unqualified pizza to bear the _qualified_ name. It's perfectly standard for an X Y to be _somewhat_ different from the prototypical Y, and I don't think that chicago pizza exceeds that level of difference, unless "pizza" is defined _particularly_ narrowly.
(disclaimer, it's been many years since I've eaten a Chicago pizza. It didn't make a massive impression on me, gastronomically-speaking.)
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in reply to Adam • • •It ain't remotely a quiche. I've yet to encounter one that included eggs or had a pastry crust.
As a linguistic realist, I believe foods are what they are called if they are called that by enough people who eat those foods.
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in reply to FeralRobots • •@FeralRobots @Richard Gadsden @Adam Have to say, the intricacies of baked gluten products escape me, since I have to file them all under “poison” these days.
Anyway, it was a very pleasant fruit tart.
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in reply to Nick Barlow • •@Nick Barlow @Richard Gadsden @Adam Now now, as Adam says, we shouldn’t be too prescriptive. If the good people of Chicago want to eschew egg in their quiche, who are we to judge?
I should, however, note that Welsh Rarebit actually is pizza.
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in reply to Eleanor LNR Blair • • •Maybe, but it does highlight one of the key problems with quiche. (My workaround is to warm it from chilled until the crust gets soft. Not ideal, but better than cold crust or hot filling.)
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