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Just as a friendly reminder for anyone not aware:

The British press is not our friend. They, as a rule, do not publish anything, ever, favorable about trans folks, because those who control their content would very much prefer that we didn't exist.

So, if a reporter for, say, The Guardian wants to talk to you?

Don't.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

I know the prospect of being interviewed by Important People is exciting. I've been there! But always do your due diligence when a member of the press comes calling and see what sort of things they're responsible for writing before you agree to or say anything.

The 24-hour news cycle has brutalized journalism, and as a result of it we now live in a new age of yellow journalism and smear reporting. There are a few good eggs, but...

Signed: a professor in a journalism and technical comm program.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

Out of curiosity, because I haven't learned yet about who the orgs are that are fighting the good fight in the UK, are there orgs that are organized enough to fight the good fight?

That are likely to be prepared for the inevitable? (because someone is going to talk).

I might want to follow them if they have a social media presence.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

@Ghostynn @OftOverthinking Cuz this is what I'm aware of: https://www.stonewall.org.uk/cass-review

"Our team is now reviewing the 400-page report and preparing the key questions that will need to be answered if we are to truly improve trans children and young people’s gender healthcare.

We firmly believe that trans children and young people deserve to be listened to and given access to the care and support that they need."

Published yesterday.

in reply to Ghost isn't in the shell 🏳️‍⚧️

@Ghostynn @OftOverthinking Yeah, this is very very diplomatic language for "don't fucking do this."

> Many recommendations could make a positive impact – such as expanding provision of healthcare by moving away from a single national service towards a series of regional centre's... But without due care, training or further capacity in the system, others could lead to new barriers that prevent children and young people from accessing the care they need and deserve.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

@Ghostynn @OftOverthinking They're trying to finesse a PR reality that presents the review in an unambiguously positive light. This is a carefully measured condemnation of the Review. I wouldn't mistake it for anything else.
in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

@Ghostynn @OftOverthinking this sounds somewhat similar to what Amsterdam UMC has published (the ones who started the "Dutch protocol"):
https://www.amsterdamumc.org/nl/vandaag/een-reactie-van-amsterdam-umc-op-de-cass-review-over-transgenderzorg.htm

It's as if they picked out all the positive parts of the review, and ignored all the negative/wrong parts except for one thing: they don't agree that the use of puberty blockers needs more evidence. But they don't say anything about the Cass recommendation of only starting treatment at 25 for example.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

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in reply to Joseph Riparian 🏳️‍⚧️

@holyramenempire I get where you're coming from, but when it's the British press, and especially places like The Guardian? They have a pretty long record of straight-up lying to people they interview about trans stuff, up to and including Judith Butler, to smear us.

It's just not worth it.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

@holyramenempire

That's really good information Joseph.

I'm with Doc on this one, as far as random trans people in the world on this issue right now:

Just don't. Leave this stuff to people in the loop, authorized by organizations to talk to the press about what's going on.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

I didn't mean it as a contradiction of your post at all, just a tangent. Like, "if anyone is considering being a source for a US reporter, since things are popping off here, too, here are some things to consider." Maybe I thought it was more on-topic than it was, in which case I'm sorry about that!

(Edit: Oh, it was because you mentioned "due diligence"! This was an example of how to think of that process.)

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in reply to Joseph Riparian 🏳️‍⚧️

@holyramenempire Very fair. There's just rumblings of stuff, and especially given the breathless and overly-credulous coverage of the Cass Report in British media this week, a more categorical reminder seemed in order.
in reply to Joseph Riparian 🏳️‍⚧️

I would also highly recommend before even starting an interview to do some serious googling about their history of journalism, controversial pieces they've authored, and whether you feel like they can be trusted to fairly represent your point of view in the story. I mean, ALL journalism is going to involve making a thesis for your story, collecting evidence that fits the thesis, and writing it out in such a way that you convey the story you want to tell to the readers. But some journalists do pretty dodgy shit to try to make the sources and evidence imply shit that was never said.

@holyramenempire
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in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

just to add on to this, if anyone we know ever wants advice about press stuff, please reach out! we're happy to help!

we think it's important for a free society that people feel able to talk to the press. it's just also important to apply some critical thinking.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

In Hungary once a journalist (not far-far, but still kinda-far right winged kind) asked me for an interview about trans life...

I accepted it without hesitation (with a nice plan to make it fun) and wasted their time as much as possible. Whatever question they asked I started to talk about trains, the weather, the ocean life, the type of wood of the table we were sitting.

That was so much fun.

:ms_troll: 4ever, they deserved it.

in reply to Efertone :v_trans:

@efertone lol, but even then, beware: a determined miscreant can paint you like a raving lunatic with such tactics.
in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

in my experience, if you are the target of a story, and refuse to speak to them, they'll just make stuff up, including quotes, anyway. I don't have a conclusion.
in reply to Isabel Ruffell

@iaruffell If they make up quotes, the best you can do is go public with your evidence of refusal.

Not all journalists are bad. There's just... well, some bad people heading some important newsrooms right now.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

oh, my experience was 25 years ago! A different media environment in some important ways,of course.
in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

honestly I have never heard a british accent mention trans people in a non-discriminatory way. It seems like if someome is british and their voice is being recorded, they are required by law to make a negative joke about trans people.

Especially the tall asshole on the british car shows. Dude is obsessed.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

@Doc "Atombusen" Impossible Daily Mail once tried to do a transphobic hit piece on me. They asked me to comment.

I told them that they were scraping the bottom of the barrel and that their “story” was a vacuous attempt to fill column inches, and they should stop embarrassing their profession and go and report some real news.

They spiked it.

in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

remember you can record any conversation in which you are a participant to put as proof in court (at least in USA and Spain this applies) and can actually Sue them if they lie about the reason of the interview
in reply to Nawer

@Nawer_Rapter This is not accurate in all US states. Many have two party consent laws that would treat that as wiretapping.
in reply to Doc "Atombusen" Impossible

@Nawer_Rapter IANAL but I think that just means the other party needs to know you’re recording.