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Reading about the book that this Vance bloke wrote, and apparently it’s all, “I was poor growing up and struggled but saw people on benefits with phones and that’s not fair”.

And his conclusion seems to be that they shouldn’t have those things if he can’t.

I had a similar childhood, but reached a very different conclusion. I don’t want anyone to struggle. If someone else has something I don’t, I don’t actually care as long as I have what I need.

He seems to feel that what he wants is not for his own needs to be met per-se, but to be ahead of others. As long as he has the biggest slice of cake, it doesn’t matter how small the cake is.

I want enough cake, and I want the rest of the cake to have enough for everyone else.

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in reply to Sarah Brown

There’s the old LBJ adage about needing someone to look down on …
in reply to Sarah Brown

same! I grew up in a declining industrial town, as the child of an unemployed single mother, growing our own food, couldn't afford a car, etc. I'm now a successful engineer and rich beyond my wildest childhood dreams (not a millionaire or anything, but still). And I want a UBI, and a free NHS with staff who get reasonable pay and work reasonable hours, and for kids to get free school meals, and nobody to be homeless or hungry. Can society afford that? Yes. Poverty costs us all.