Your tourism industry is *not* sustainable if no one can get to your country in a sustainable way
Looking at you Croatia, Norway, Portugal in particular
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Your tourism industry is *not* sustainable if no one can get to your country in a sustainable way
Looking at you Croatia, Norway, Portugal in particular
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in reply to Sarah Brown • • •@goatsarah I would absolutely *love* to be able to travel corner-to-corner, coast-to-coast on the Iberian peninsula by sleeper train. Perhaps this will come back, one day. For example, get on a train in Alicante or Murcia at 10pm after an early supper and wake up in Galicia or Lisbon 👌…
RENFE axed all the sleeper trains.
Public services should not be run according to how much shareholder value they can generate.
#sleepertrain #trenHotel #renfe #spain
Sarah Brown
in reply to Marcus Jenkins • •@Marcus Jenkins @Jon Worth The Portuguese government has asked the Spanish to reinstate the Sud Express on several occasions, and offered to put up money, and they keep saying no.
Apparently the Spanish are only interested in high speed rail. Of course, the Iberian peninsula having a different track gauge to the rest of the continent for its existing lines makes the development of long distance high speed rail … challenging.
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in reply to Jon Worth • •@Jon Worth @Toxy 🔬🇪🇺🇸🇪🇬🇧🇺🇦 And even when ferries do exist, well, riddle me this.
The capital value of a RORO ferry and a Boeing 737-Max8200 can’t be that different.
The operating costs can’t be that different. Ferries are big and have big engines, but maintaining state of the art high bypass turbofans is not cheap.
So why does it cost 20 quid off peak to fly FAO-STN and a THOUSAND quid to travel by ferry from Santander to a Portsmouth?
Ok, there’s the cabin, but lots of places do overnight hotel rooms for a lot less than that.
I can only think that this is economy of scale.
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in reply to Sarah Brown • • •Maybe the airlines are better at lobbying?But “flight shame” is a real thing in Sweden. I would think ferries to the UK would be really popular. Sweden is a long country so only the South half of the country has any real access to decent transport that isn’t the car or plane.
Colm Donoghue
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It's £161 to travel next Tuesday from Portsmouth to Santander. Where are you getting the grand price?
Planes can take more trips in the time the ferry travels, so the 20 quids get multiplied.
You can also bring substantially more than 10kg luggage by ship
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in reply to Jon Worth • • •Why you didn’t mention Spain ? But yes, i know a important part of their problem is France and its stupid track access charges that makes an viable operation impossible between FR-ES.
But i think Renfe can do much better it they try hard enough…
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in reply to Jon Worth • • •I hate to bring my home country into this, but Spain isn't too cool in this respect, either. Mainland Spain *can* be reached by train from the rest of Europe, but let's face reality - the bulk are tourists from the UK coming in on (unsustainably) cheap flights for a week's roasting on the beach.
And then there's the Baleraric & Canary islands. Southern Tenerife is almost more British than Spanish, I'm afraid to say.
#sustainability #tourism #spain
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