I want to talk about something I just saw on Reddit. It was regarding the US election, and it was a Democrat saying something to the effect of how he can agree with “the other side” on one thing.
No prizes for guessing: it’s trans women. Specifically, he regards the idea that we can participate in society in any meaningful way (you know, like being able to use toilets in restaurants and stuff) as “insane”.
And of course, he got to talking about “penises” straight away, which tells us a lot about how people like him see us, because I don’t know about you, but when I think about women, “penis”. Is not my go-to. Hell, when I think about ANYBODY, I don’t tend to think about sex organs. Only really comes up in a sexual context.
Not only do these people not see us as women. They don’t see us as PEOPLE. To a considerable number of cis people, we are “some sort of weird sex thing”. That’s it. That’s the bit of their brain we occupy.
People have hopes and dreams and lives
... Show more...I want to talk about something I just saw on Reddit. It was regarding the US election, and it was a Democrat saying something to the effect of how he can agree with “the other side” on one thing.
No prizes for guessing: it’s trans women. Specifically, he regards the idea that we can participate in society in any meaningful way (you know, like being able to use toilets in restaurants and stuff) as “insane”.
And of course, he got to talking about “penises” straight away, which tells us a lot about how people like him see us, because I don’t know about you, but when I think about women, “penis”. Is not my go-to. Hell, when I think about ANYBODY, I don’t tend to think about sex organs. Only really comes up in a sexual context.
Not only do these people not see us as women. They don’t see us as PEOPLE. To a considerable number of cis people, we are “some sort of weird sex thing”. That’s it. That’s the bit of their brain we occupy.
People have hopes and dreams and lives and people they love and who love them, and need to use toilets occasionally. Weird sex things don’t do any of that.
So of course the Democrats treating us as human is “weird” to them.
And he was massively up-voted, and congratulated about “finding common ground with political opponents”, and the comments saying, “what the hell? These are humans you’re talking about!” were all a long way down, and not popular.
This is how cis people see us. Not all of them, but a lot of them. An awful lot. Of the ones who don’t, a lot of them will only support us as long as it doesn’t require any personal awkwardness.
Anyway, my point here is not to wallow, but to present the context in which we fight for equality, because I think it’s clear that these people will never grant it to us voluntarily.
Not only are there no consequences for them to treat us like shit; they are CONGRATULATED for it.
And they will only stop if they are MADE to.
That’s the context in which our struggle operates.
Kincaid
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NatalyaD
in reply to Kincaid • • •@kincaid I call him a fucking quisling and I'm cis (but bi).
He is a fucking quisling and his memoir makes it very clear he is a power monger who says what he thinks will keep him in power, hence being nice in 2017 and a transphobic shit now. I will enjoy watching him regret it, but know many are suffering who will never get recompense.
We need to kick transphobes out of the queer communities. Not welcome, not queer, ahistorical hypocrites who can get in a big bin.
NatalyaD
Unknown parent • • •That'd be a fantastic party.
I don't understand how anyone rehabilitated Bindel, she's appalling.
I got monstered at 2013 Feminism in London con (just before it showed its TERF face) where I'd been asked to speak on being a bi and disabled woman (like you do). I named Bindel as a hateful bi/transphobe whose type made me avoid women's space for yrs. The organisers sat there and let a minority abuse me. But 30+ people thanked me 1 by 1 for speaking out against disablism and terfery.
Luke
Unknown parent • • •Sarah Brown
in reply to NatalyaD • •@NatalyaD I was invited to that conference. They set me up to be ambushed by Bindel. I only found out when students protested against her inclusion. I said I wasn’t comfortable but was happy to be on a panel without her (she had already pulled out by then). The organisers said no. The rumour was then spread that I had organised the protests (I hadn’t even known they’d existed) and got Bindel removed (I had not), and this kicked off an internet stalking/harassment campaign against me which resulted in a nervous breakdown and a 6 month gap in my memory.
The organisers of the 2013 feminism in London conference are not my favourite people.
NatalyaD
in reply to Sarah Brown • • •I don't think Bindel was at 2013 cos I'd have kicked off if she had been - I hate her.
I wonder if you mean 2014 which was the year of protests and lot of the same organising people for sure. I know a nonbinary black person who pulled out when they found out Bindel was involved. I no longer speak to my former friends who were organisers cos TERFery.
I'm sorry you got the blame for the protests, that's just barking, but standard for TERFs who really are horrible obsessive evil ppl.
Nile
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in reply to NatalyaD • •@NatalyaD The harassment campaign happened in 2014 because that was the year I was standing for reelection and it happened as a result of the FiL conference.
Was it really early in the year, or really late? I had a feeling its as December, but if it was January then it was indeed 2014.
Memory doesn't work too well during that time period. There were psychiatric drugs. Quite a few of them.
NatalyaD
in reply to Sarah Brown • • •Looks like FiL 2013 and 2014 were both in October of those years.
The 2014 organising kickoffs that I remember were in the several months running up to it as I knew people who pulled out after discovering Bindel and TERFery & the organisers trying to stealthily set them up for shit.
Anyway, best left in the past and protect yourself at all costs. I'll keep calling Bindel and friends out as the grifting bigots that they are.
Alexandra Lanes
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